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		<title>By: themaiden</title>
		<link>http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2006/07/01/atheists-are-bad-bad-people-man/#comment-173270</link>
		<dc:creator>themaiden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 04:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>an athiest,

Because without God there is nothing to stop us from stealing and raping.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>an athiest,</p>
<p>Because without God there is nothing to stop us from stealing and raping.</p>
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		<title>By: an atheist</title>
		<link>http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2006/07/01/atheists-are-bad-bad-people-man/#comment-173184</link>
		<dc:creator>an atheist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 00:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anti-Atheism is the most widely accepted form of bigotry. Why do people hate us so much?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anti-Atheism is the most widely accepted form of bigotry. Why do people hate us so much?</p>
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		<title>By: themaiden</title>
		<link>http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2006/07/01/atheists-are-bad-bad-people-man/#comment-116407</link>
		<dc:creator>themaiden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 00:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Denis,

I'd like to think so too. Still, it does worry me that at least some of the faithful do seem to feel that fear of God is the only thing keeping them from homicidal mania.</description>
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<p>I&#8217;d like to think so too. Still, it does worry me that at least some of the faithful do seem to feel that fear of God is the only thing keeping them from homicidal mania.</p>
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		<title>By: Denis Loubet</title>
		<link>http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2006/07/01/atheists-are-bad-bad-people-man/#comment-116398</link>
		<dc:creator>Denis Loubet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 00:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was a guest on an atheist call-in show, and was confronted by the theist question "what keeps you from raping and killing?" I responded by asking him if that was what he would rather be doing if not for the edicts of his god. Rather than surrender the point, which he apparently just couldn't do, he answered "Yes."

I like to think he didn't mean it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a guest on an atheist call-in show, and was confronted by the theist question &#8220;what keeps you from raping and killing?&#8221; I responded by asking him if that was what he would rather be doing if not for the edicts of his god. Rather than surrender the point, which he apparently just couldn&#8217;t do, he answered &#8220;Yes.&#8221;</p>
<p>I like to think he didn&#8217;t mean it.</p>
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		<title>By: The Humanist Symposium #7 - Bligbi</title>
		<link>http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2006/07/01/atheists-are-bad-bad-people-man/#comment-116293</link>
		<dc:creator>The Humanist Symposium #7 - Bligbi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 14:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] reminds us all that the more theists speak the more they repeat themselves in this oldie but goodie Atheists are bad, bad people&#8230;..man. And they wonder why we don&#8217;t have any &#8220;new&#8221; arguments, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] reminds us all that the more theists speak the more they repeat themselves in this oldie but goodie Atheists are bad, bad people&#8230;..man. And they wonder why we don&#8217;t have any &#8220;new&#8221; arguments, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: themaiden</title>
		<link>http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2006/07/01/atheists-are-bad-bad-people-man/#comment-106509</link>
		<dc:creator>themaiden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 03:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>U Kiddin me,

I wonder, did you make it past the first paragraph?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>U Kiddin me,</p>
<p>I wonder, did you make it past the first paragraph?</p>
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		<title>By: U kiddin me?</title>
		<link>http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2006/07/01/atheists-are-bad-bad-people-man/#comment-106485</link>
		<dc:creator>U kiddin me?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 02:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“ultimate self-interested actor who doesn’t care about anyone but themselves” and “that religion and good morals are one and the same”. Americans consequently “rate atheists below Muslims, recent immigrants, homosexuals and other groups as “sharing their vision of American society.”

Wow. Atheists aren't self-centered. They are trying to make it equal for everyone. The reason why they are rated SO LOW is because over 90 percent of america is religious. Had this poll been taken in Sweden, the result would be TOTALLY different. Atheists are not evil. IF you think they are than I hope there is still air to breathe when your head is that far up your ass. If atheists were against morals how come we aint blowin up shit or doing crazy things. You could say "oh yah but Joseph stalin killed all those people and he was an atheist" Yeah but he also had fucking mental disorders. HE didnt kill those people because he was an atheist so get your facts straight for pete sakes im tired of seeing so many un educated people. HOw can you judge someone so harshly when you don't even learn about them. SHame on you.</description>
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<p>Wow. Atheists aren&#8217;t self-centered. They are trying to make it equal for everyone. The reason why they are rated SO LOW is because over 90 percent of america is religious. Had this poll been taken in Sweden, the result would be TOTALLY different. Atheists are not evil. IF you think they are than I hope there is still air to breathe when your head is that far up your ass. If atheists were against morals how come we aint blowin up shit or doing crazy things. You could say &#8220;oh yah but Joseph stalin killed all those people and he was an atheist&#8221; Yeah but he also had fucking mental disorders. HE didnt kill those people because he was an atheist so get your facts straight for pete sakes im tired of seeing so many un educated people. HOw can you judge someone so harshly when you don&#8217;t even learn about them. SHame on you.</p>
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		<title>By: The Nazis and First Peter &#124; hell's handmaiden</title>
		<link>http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2006/07/01/atheists-are-bad-bad-people-man/#comment-93772</link>
		<dc:creator>The Nazis and First Peter &#124; hell's handmaiden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 15:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that the answers usually involve appeals to Hitler&#8217;s carisma, to mass ignorance, or to the tragic effects of godlessness&#8211; this latter despite the fact that neither Hitler, nor the people of Hitler&#8217;s Germany, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] that the answers usually involve appeals to Hitler&#8217;s carisma, to mass ignorance, or to the tragic effects of godlessness&#8211; this latter despite the fact that neither Hitler, nor the people of Hitler&#8217;s Germany, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Blogs for Human Rights &#124; hell's handmaiden</title>
		<link>http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2006/07/01/atheists-are-bad-bad-people-man/#comment-93445</link>
		<dc:creator>Blogs for Human Rights &#124; hell's handmaiden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2007 15:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] live &#8220;on their own&#8217;, but can they? Does living fit Noonan&#8217;s criteria? Not really. Humans are social animals. We don&#8217;t live very long or very well in the utter absence of other humans, in the absense of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] live &#8220;on their own&#8217;, but can they? Does living fit Noonan&#8217;s criteria? Not really. Humans are social animals. We don&#8217;t live very long or very well in the utter absence of other humans, in the absense of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Atheists are bad, bad people... Part II &#124; hell's handmaiden</title>
		<link>http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2006/07/01/atheists-are-bad-bad-people-man/#comment-93344</link>
		<dc:creator>Atheists are bad, bad people... Part II &#124; hell's handmaiden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2007 03:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I left Part I of this article with this question hanging: &#8220;Is it perhaps not the reality of God that matters, but only the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I left Part I of this article with this question hanging: &#8220;Is it perhaps not the reality of God that matters, but only the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Evolution isn't theology &#124; hell's handmaiden</title>
		<link>http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2006/07/01/atheists-are-bad-bad-people-man/#comment-93341</link>
		<dc:creator>Evolution isn't theology &#124; hell's handmaiden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2007 02:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I have argued, much as Shermer does briefly in his points three, four and five, that the nature of social [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I have argued, much as Shermer does briefly in his points three, four and five, that the nature of social [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Religion? Culture? Adaptation? &#124; hell's handmaiden</title>
		<link>http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2006/07/01/atheists-are-bad-bad-people-man/#comment-92697</link>
		<dc:creator>Religion? Culture? Adaptation? &#124; hell's handmaiden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 13:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Yes, it is. It is adaptive in the same way that any other element of culture is adaptive, and I object to McNeil&#8217;s conditions #2 and #3 for this reason. You can&#8217;t really apply [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Yes, it is. It is adaptive in the same way that any other element of culture is adaptive, and I object to McNeil&#8217;s conditions #2 and #3 for this reason. You can&#8217;t really apply [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Atheists are bad, bad people... The Conclusion! &#124; hell's handmaiden</title>
		<link>http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2006/07/01/atheists-are-bad-bad-people-man/#comment-91082</link>
		<dc:creator>Atheists are bad, bad people... The Conclusion! &#124; hell's handmaiden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 03:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] began Part I with the statement that, according to one view, &#8220;We need the boogeyman under the bed, and we [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] began Part I with the statement that, according to one view, &#8220;We need the boogeyman under the bed, and we [...]</p>
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		<title>By: hell&#8217;s handmaiden &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Blogs for Human Rights</title>
		<link>http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2006/07/01/atheists-are-bad-bad-people-man/#comment-80060</link>
		<dc:creator>hell&#8217;s handmaiden &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Blogs for Human Rights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2007 17:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I hope not, because humans don&#8217;t do a lot on their own. Take the first item on Mark&#8217;s list&#8211; live. It seems obvious that people have a right to live. Likewise, it seems rather obvious that people can live &#8220;on their own&#8217;, but can they? Does living fit Noonan&#8217;s criteria? Not really. Humans are social animals. We don&#8217;t live very long or very well in the utter absence of other humans, in the absense of society. By Noonan&#8217;s formula, we therefore don&#8217;t have the right to live. After all, we can&#8217;t very well do it alone, and the rare person who can can&#8217;t reproduce so the whole endeavor ends there. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I hope not, because humans don&#8217;t do a lot on their own. Take the first item on Mark&#8217;s list&#8211; live. It seems obvious that people have a right to live. Likewise, it seems rather obvious that people can live &#8220;on their own&#8217;, but can they? Does living fit Noonan&#8217;s criteria? Not really. Humans are social animals. We don&#8217;t live very long or very well in the utter absence of other humans, in the absense of society. By Noonan&#8217;s formula, we therefore don&#8217;t have the right to live. After all, we can&#8217;t very well do it alone, and the rare person who can can&#8217;t reproduce so the whole endeavor ends there. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: hell&#8217;s handmaiden &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Religion? Culture? Adaptation?</title>
		<link>http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2006/07/01/atheists-are-bad-bad-people-man/#comment-77602</link>
		<dc:creator>hell&#8217;s handmaiden &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Religion? Culture? Adaptation?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2007 14:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Sure. Yes, it is. It is adaptive in the same way that any other element of culture is adaptive, and I object to McNeil&#8217;s conditions #2 and #3 for this reason. You can&#8217;t really apply those conditions to culture in general, and I see no reason to apply it to a subset. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Sure. Yes, it is. It is adaptive in the same way that any other element of culture is adaptive, and I object to McNeil&#8217;s conditions #2 and #3 for this reason. You can&#8217;t really apply those conditions to culture in general, and I see no reason to apply it to a subset. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: hell&#8217;s handmaiden &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Daily Irreverence</title>
		<link>http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2006/07/01/atheists-are-bad-bad-people-man/#comment-49053</link>
		<dc:creator>hell&#8217;s handmaiden &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Daily Irreverence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 14:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] has the Carnival of the Godless this time around. It contains a good piece from Abstract Nonsense, for example, and another good one from Kingdom of Heathen, which addresses the same topic as does my own Atheists are bad, bad people, &#8230;man. Enjoy. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] has the Carnival of the Godless this time around. It contains a good piece from Abstract Nonsense, for example, and another good one from Kingdom of Heathen, which addresses the same topic as does my own Atheists are bad, bad people, &#8230;man. Enjoy. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: hell&#8217;s handmaiden &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Hate Figures du Jour</title>
		<link>http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2006/07/01/atheists-are-bad-bad-people-man/#comment-38912</link>
		<dc:creator>hell&#8217;s handmaiden &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Hate Figures du Jour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 14:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Yes, I quoted a large chunk, but please follow the link and read on. There is more, much more. On the other hand, though, we all know that Atheists are bad, bad people.  And I&#8217;m hoping the name is an Alice Cooper reference [back]Popularity: unrankedLove the post? Hate it? Please let me know. Leave a comment and spread the word:These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Yes, I quoted a large chunk, but please follow the link and read on. There is more, much more. On the other hand, though, we all know that Atheists are bad, bad people.  And I&#8217;m hoping the name is an Alice Cooper reference [back]Popularity: unrankedLove the post? Hate it? Please let me know. Leave a comment and spread the word:These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: hell&#8217;s handmaiden &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Beckwith, Darwinian Conservatism, and Natural Law</title>
		<link>http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2006/07/01/atheists-are-bad-bad-people-man/#comment-38365</link>
		<dc:creator>hell&#8217;s handmaiden &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Beckwith, Darwinian Conservatism, and Natural Law</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Dec 2006 05:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Francis Beckwith has posted a teaser, at RightReason, to a review of a book, Darwinian Conservatism, by Larry Arnhart. It caught my attention because Arnhart seems to be making an argument similar to the the one I made in a series of posts beginning with Atheists are bad, bad people… man. Of course, there are differences. I am godless; Arnhart is not, for one. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Francis Beckwith has posted a teaser, at RightReason, to a review of a book, Darwinian Conservatism, by Larry Arnhart. It caught my attention because Arnhart seems to be making an argument similar to the the one I made in a series of posts beginning with Atheists are bad, bad people… man. Of course, there are differences. I am godless; Arnhart is not, for one. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: hell&#8217;s handmaiden &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Evolution isn&#8217;t theology</title>
		<link>http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2006/07/01/atheists-are-bad-bad-people-man/#comment-24068</link>
		<dc:creator>hell&#8217;s handmaiden &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Evolution isn&#8217;t theology</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 15:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Now, I have argued, much as Shermer does briefly in his points three, four and five, that the nature of social interaction can be used to derive an ethics very much like the ethics purportedly based upon religious sentiment, which, as C.S. Lewis noted, do not change much from culture to culture. In fact, I argue that those religious ethical systems are expressions of, are derivative of, the mechanisms of social interaction. However, tying such an argument specifically to &#8216;the Christian&#8217; concepts of human nature and morality is taking the idea much to far, and such overextension introduces a number of factors that simply should not be there. Tying the idea to Christianity in particular rules out numerous equivalent systems of morality and suggests, among other things, that Christianity is at the top of a ladder of &#8216;goodness&#8217;. I can&#8217;t help but think that Shermer&#8217;s decision to name Christianity is a bit of Orwellian word-play employed to beg the faithful into buying the theory of evolution. I don&#8217;t think it is honest. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Now, I have argued, much as Shermer does briefly in his points three, four and five, that the nature of social interaction can be used to derive an ethics very much like the ethics purportedly based upon religious sentiment, which, as C.S. Lewis noted, do not change much from culture to culture. In fact, I argue that those religious ethical systems are expressions of, are derivative of, the mechanisms of social interaction. However, tying such an argument specifically to &#8216;the Christian&#8217; concepts of human nature and morality is taking the idea much to far, and such overextension introduces a number of factors that simply should not be there. Tying the idea to Christianity in particular rules out numerous equivalent systems of morality and suggests, among other things, that Christianity is at the top of a ladder of &#8216;goodness&#8217;. I can&#8217;t help but think that Shermer&#8217;s decision to name Christianity is a bit of Orwellian word-play employed to beg the faithful into buying the theory of evolution. I don&#8217;t think it is honest. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: themaiden</title>
		<link>http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2006/07/01/atheists-are-bad-bad-people-man/#comment-18354</link>
		<dc:creator>themaiden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Sep 2006 04:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kirsten and Jessie,

Did you... uh... read the article at all? I ask because it looks as if you didn't make it past the title.</description>
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<p>Did you&#8230; uh&#8230; read the article at all? I ask because it looks as if you didn&#8217;t make it past the title.</p>
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