Stumble it!Burning people… but with some control, of course
posted in Society by themaiden |I believe we need to view the situation as merely a controlled burn. It is no secret that tensions in the region have been near boiling for many years.
How does one reason oneself into a place where one can in good conscience compare killing people to burning trees?
Islamofascism threatens to engulf the entire region into on blazing inferno. These are far right idealogues that have convinced an entire populace to hate us.
Most historians would tell you that it wasn’t the far right idealogues– amusing choice of terms given that the coming from a far right idealogue– who convinced these people to hate us. It was the brutal mistreatment they’ve suffered under Western European dominance and foreign policy over the past 150 years, not to mention crusader looting stretching back about a thousand years. Beat and abuse a people for a good millenia and it oughtn’t be a surprise that they dislike you.
First and foremost you kill the idealogues.
Oh, right. First we kill people. That’ll fix it.
Then we desperately need to show the people. The same populace that has been trained and taught to hate us, that we are not the demons that the Idealogues have portrayed us as.
We are not the demons? How do we do that when far right idealogues over here are gung-ho about killing people, and justify the act by comparing the murder to burning trees?
That is an extremely difficult task.
Given that we are killing people and “control burning” whole nations, I’ll bet it is a difficult task.
For some reason many believe that a war should only last weeks and only rarely stretch into months.
Oh, hell, I don’t know. Maybe we think that because that is what the President promised?
Get real! The Cold War involved the same need to change an entire way of thinking, and it lasted 60 years.
Yup. And the cold war ended because the Soviet Union’s economy collapsed. It was neither political nor military victory and it certainly wasn’t the result of a conversion of anyone’s thinking.
I certainly hope not, but the freedom MUST last that long. If we are to avert the coming inferno in the middle east, then Iraq must be free.
Simple question: a foreign nation marches into the United States and ‘frees’ it. Would you feel free?
Eisenhower spoke of the nations of the world falling like dominoes to communism.
The domino theory is soooooo discredited
I believe that freedom can in that same way spread across the middle east.
That domino theory too…
A classified 26 February State Department document titled Iraq, the Middle East and Change: No Dominoes, has been leaked to the US media. Under the “domino” clause, the document debunks the theory that fostering democracy in Iraq will have a positive effect on the political systems of Jordan, Syria, Iran and even Egypt–something the Bush administration has been using as justification for its Iraqi war.
“This idea that you are going to transform the Middle East and fundamentally alter its trajectory is simply not credible,” officials who have studied the document conclude. Produced by the State Department’s Bureau of Intelligence–an in-house `think-tank’–the document does not necessarily reflect the views of Secretary of State Colin Powell, the same officials admit. They further conceed that considerable friction has developed between the Bush administration’s foreign policy arm and the hard-line neo-conservatives who seem to have the ear of the President.
Now, this next part is interesting.
They distort the truth in order to ensure the continuation of their own power. The ruling elites have used religion to maintain their power.
I take that to mean that you’ll be joining me in opposing the President, then? And much of the Republican party?
I could have swore that I read somewhere, “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”
And this justifies a “controlled burn” of people, exactly how? This justifies killing people you don’t like, exactly how?
Are these truths not applicable to the people of the middle east? As lovers of liberty have we not a responsibility to liberate the oppressed? The governments of the middle east are some of the most oppressive in the world. Have we grown so engorged on the fruits of liberty, that we have forgotten it’s cost?
As lovers of liberty we have to realize that other people might do things differently than we’d like. Loving liberty does not mean “forcing people to be free”, as Rousseau would have it.
We ought to be ashamed.
I can agree there, but for very different reasons.
And by addressing the inferno to come with a controlled burn in Iraq, then we avert the disaster that is waiting just around the corner.
Yeah… burn the kids first… and the women…
How did this nation reach such a low? How did we arrive as such moral bankruptcy?
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