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		<title>By: Graphictruth</title>
		<link>http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2007/05/24/the-naked-people-made-me-do-bad-things/#comment-152567</link>
		<dc:creator>Graphictruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 19:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oops: &lt;a href="http://erotictruth.blogspot.com/2007/12/what-part-of-personal-responsiblity-do.html"&gt;Here's the expanded post&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oops: <a href="http://erotictruth.blogspot.com/2007/12/what-part-of-personal-responsiblity-do.html">Here&#8217;s the expanded post</a></p>
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		<title>By: Graphictruth</title>
		<link>http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2007/05/24/the-naked-people-made-me-do-bad-things/#comment-152566</link>
		<dc:creator>Graphictruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 19:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I felt the need to expand significantly on my reaction to this post - and in expanding it, found out that bitingbeaver.blogspot.com has gone invitation only.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I felt the need to expand significantly on my reaction to this post - and in expanding it, found out that bitingbeaver.blogspot.com has gone invitation only.</p>
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		<title>By: Graphictruth</title>
		<link>http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2007/05/24/the-naked-people-made-me-do-bad-things/#comment-152321</link>
		<dc:creator>Graphictruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 00:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is it that anti-porn activists cannot make an argument without going straight for my lunch? I assure you, most consumers of porn are as disgusted by coporphagia as anyone else. It's an extreme niche fetish and we have a saying regarding "your kink is ok, &lt;strike&gt;just don't ever breathe in the same room with me&lt;/strike&gt;, it's just not my kink."

There is absolutely no combination of porn and persuasion that could ever convince me, or most other folks, that such a thing was sexy. 

I'm with the Maiden on this one: If images of any kind trigger thoughts like you describe, it's because there's stuff in your background you have repressed. That's where most seemingly bizarre sexual practices arise - generally from abuse at the hands of someone highly trusted.

So, in a way, being triggered by porn is a good thing. I mean, have you considered the obvious connection between your "wicked" desire to sexually dominate other women and your father's behavior toward you and your family?

The sum total of Republican Family Values seems to be shooting the messenger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is it that anti-porn activists cannot make an argument without going straight for my lunch? I assure you, most consumers of porn are as disgusted by coporphagia as anyone else. It&#8217;s an extreme niche fetish and we have a saying regarding &#8220;your kink is ok, <strike>just don&#8217;t ever breathe in the same room with me</strike>, it&#8217;s just not my kink.&#8221;</p>
<p>There is absolutely no combination of porn and persuasion that could ever convince me, or most other folks, that such a thing was sexy. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m with the Maiden on this one: If images of any kind trigger thoughts like you describe, it&#8217;s because there&#8217;s stuff in your background you have repressed. That&#8217;s where most seemingly bizarre sexual practices arise - generally from abuse at the hands of someone highly trusted.</p>
<p>So, in a way, being triggered by porn is a good thing. I mean, have you considered the obvious connection between your &#8220;wicked&#8221; desire to sexually dominate other women and your father&#8217;s behavior toward you and your family?</p>
<p>The sum total of Republican Family Values seems to be shooting the messenger.</p>
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		<title>By: Dodgeblogium &#187; Blog Archive &#187; ISP-less COTV</title>
		<link>http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2007/05/24/the-naked-people-made-me-do-bad-things/#comment-152174</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 11:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dodgeblogium &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sore COTV</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 00:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: NoPornNorthampton</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 15:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Biting Beaver's experience is generalizable to a &lt;a href="http://nopornnorthampton.org/categories/Marriage.aspx" rel="nofollow"&gt;large number of people&lt;/a&gt;. The nudity isn't the problem. The way porn performers interact with each other on screen is the problem.


Consider this recent &lt;a href="http://nopornnorthampton.org/2007/05/13/presentation-content-analysis-bestselling-porn-films.aspx" rel="nofollow"&gt;content analysis&lt;/a&gt; of 50 top selling porn films:

Bridges: "We also coded for, what...we're calling loosely in this talk, 'extreme acts' (of sex acts). The only sexual sequence that we coded, which is...when one thing follows another, was something called ATM...'ass-to-mouth'. This literally involves anal penetration followed by oral sex...she is literally eating her own shit. That occurred in 41% of the scenes that we coded...

"So how many scenes didn't contain aggression? About 10%.

"Slapping happened 30% of the time... Most of the aggressors in these films were men...73%. By far the most common recipient of aggression was a woman. Even when women were aggressing, they were generally aggressing other women.

"How did the person respond when they were aggressed?... In 95% of these 3,000 and some acts of aggression, the person was either neutral, as in no change of facial expression or verbal expression, or was sort of saying, 'That feels great. Keep doing it. Right on.' And in only 3% did we see some overt expression of displeasure or pain. Again, it seems to be very important to the people who are watching this to believe that the recipient of aggression is fact enjoying it, is choosing it at some level.

"Less than 10% of the videos showed any kind of a positive act, and that included kissing... caressing happened maybe twice. Something like a verbal compliment, 'Gosh, you look pretty', not, 'Slut bitch, come over here,' that happened maybe five times in the 304 scenes. So we have a ratio of positive to negative behaviors of 1 to 9, which is not a sustainable, happy relationship."


Not everybody who smokes will get lung cancer, but we accept that smoking is a cause that people should be warned about. It's the same with porn, which, among other things, is a cause of &lt;a href="http://nopornnorthampton.org/2007/02/04/pornography-cause-child-sexual-victimization-pedophilia.aspx" rel="nofollow"&gt;child sexual abuse&lt;/a&gt;. This abuse is common, by the way. In America, &lt;a href="http://nopornnorthampton.org/2007/01/03/porns-verbatim-accounts-of-the-pleasures-of-incest-dont-square-with-reality.aspx" rel="nofollow"&gt;10% of boys and 25% of girls&lt;/a&gt; will experience it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Biting Beaver&#8217;s experience is generalizable to a <a href="http://nopornnorthampton.org/categories/Marriage.aspx" rel="nofollow">large number of people</a>. The nudity isn&#8217;t the problem. The way porn performers interact with each other on screen is the problem.</p>
<p>Consider this recent <a href="http://nopornnorthampton.org/2007/05/13/presentation-content-analysis-bestselling-porn-films.aspx" rel="nofollow">content analysis</a> of 50 top selling porn films:</p>
<p>Bridges: &#8220;We also coded for, what&#8230;we&#8217;re calling loosely in this talk, &#8216;extreme acts&#8217; (of sex acts). The only sexual sequence that we coded, which is&#8230;when one thing follows another, was something called ATM&#8230;&#8217;ass-to-mouth&#8217;. This literally involves anal penetration followed by oral sex&#8230;she is literally eating her own shit. That occurred in 41% of the scenes that we coded&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;So how many scenes didn&#8217;t contain aggression? About 10%.</p>
<p>&#8220;Slapping happened 30% of the time&#8230; Most of the aggressors in these films were men&#8230;73%. By far the most common recipient of aggression was a woman. Even when women were aggressing, they were generally aggressing other women.</p>
<p>&#8220;How did the person respond when they were aggressed?&#8230; In 95% of these 3,000 and some acts of aggression, the person was either neutral, as in no change of facial expression or verbal expression, or was sort of saying, &#8216;That feels great. Keep doing it. Right on.&#8217; And in only 3% did we see some overt expression of displeasure or pain. Again, it seems to be very important to the people who are watching this to believe that the recipient of aggression is fact enjoying it, is choosing it at some level.</p>
<p>&#8220;Less than 10% of the videos showed any kind of a positive act, and that included kissing&#8230; caressing happened maybe twice. Something like a verbal compliment, &#8216;Gosh, you look pretty&#8217;, not, &#8216;Slut bitch, come over here,&#8217; that happened maybe five times in the 304 scenes. So we have a ratio of positive to negative behaviors of 1 to 9, which is not a sustainable, happy relationship.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not everybody who smokes will get lung cancer, but we accept that smoking is a cause that people should be warned about. It&#8217;s the same with porn, which, among other things, is a cause of <a href="http://nopornnorthampton.org/2007/02/04/pornography-cause-child-sexual-victimization-pedophilia.aspx" rel="nofollow">child sexual abuse</a>. This abuse is common, by the way. In America, <a href="http://nopornnorthampton.org/2007/01/03/porns-verbatim-accounts-of-the-pleasures-of-incest-dont-square-with-reality.aspx" rel="nofollow">10% of boys and 25% of girls</a> will experience it.</p>
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