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Conservatism, Burke, Republican mental disease…

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Back in 2003, the Guardian printed a story that begins:

A study funded by the US government has concluded that conservatism can be explained psychologically as a set of neuroses rooted in “fear and aggression, dogmatism and the intolerance of ambiguity”.

Study of Bush’s psyche touches a nerve

In 2004, Reason magazine ran a story centered around the work of Professor Meyer-Emerick and associate professor Robert Altemeyer.

According to Professor Altemeyer, right-wing authoritarians are cognitively rigid, aggressive, and intolerant. They are characterized by steadfast conformity to group norms, submission to higher status individuals, and aggression toward out-groups and unconventional group members. On the RWA Scale, subjects are asked to agree or disagree with statements like: “Some of the worst people in our country nowadays are those who do not respect our flag, our leaders and the normal way things are supposed to be done” and “There is absolutely nothing wrong with nudist camps.” Guess which one RWAs tend to agree with?

Pathologizing Conservatism

In 2005, a post titled Conservatism As A Mental Disorder - And A Threat appeared on The Daily Kos.

Call it conservatism, fundamentalism, right wing thinking, ideological insanity, what have you, it can clearly be considered a mental disorder; a dysfunction of the human mind, and it threatens our survival.


Conservatism As A Mental Disorder

The author of the Kos article, WaltKelly, continues on to offer a list of symptoms– a kind of questionnaire, which I won’t quote. That list of symptoms, though, generally reflects the following sentiment:

“This intolerance of ambiguity can lead people to cling to the familiar, to arrive at premature conclusions, and to impose simplistic cliches and stereotypes,” the authors argue in the Psychological Bulletin.

Study of Bush’s psyche touches a nerve

And this one:

… the Berkeley researchers found common psychological factors linked to political conservatism include: fear and aggression, dogmatism and intolerance of ambiguity, uncertainty avoidance, need for cognitive closure, and terror management that causes conservatives to shun and even punish outsiders and those who threaten the status of their cherished world views.

Pathologizing Conservatism

I admit to pondering the peculiarities of Right Wing Thought:

So I ask myself, what is wrong with the right that one would start an article with such a powerful and unequivocal statement as “This conventional wisdom…is comforting. It is also wrong.” and then half-way though admit the if’s, maybe’s, possibly’s and could-be’s? Again, I start to wonder what I might think if I were feeling conspiratorial. Perhaps, I’d think that he, like any good propagandist, placed the wish at the top while placing the properly caveatted facts a few hundred words down, and on the next age, where they are much less likely to be read.

http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2004/05/31/what-is-wrong-with-the-right/

Only recently, I wondered:

Why is it that so many right wing blogs go for names that ring of ‘bossy’, ‘dogmatic’, ‘go tell it on the mountain’, and just plain ‘arrogant’? Take, for example, The Cold Hearted Truth, Great Minds Think Right, The Right Stuff, Obviously Right (Because we’re Right, obviously), and The Bull Speaks. Doesn’t this violate the dictum that the comedian not laugh at his own jokes? I mean, if you’ve got to tell people right in the headline that you are right about being right and trump up the truthiness of your ‘truths’ by telling everyone that those truths are true, then maybe you just aren’t as right about it as you think? Could be? Maybe?

GOP Bloggers… oh, and the Attorney General

Really, this post began when I came across the Political Compass Test about a week and half ago. The following comprises part of one of the questions on that test.

A significant advantage of a one-party state is that it avoids all the arguments that delay progress in a democratic political system.

Political compass test page 4

The part about delaying progress is the tie-in.

Now that I’ve got some of you cheering and some of you fuming, I’m going to surprise all of you. I don’t think that conservatism itself is a mental disorder, though it can, like any other ideology, lead to mental unbalance if taken uncritically and to an extreme, and frankly, I think we are currently in the grip of just such unbalanced minds, but that is a different question.

In fact, I think conservatism is probably the default setting for humanity. And it is probably the default for good reason, which I’ll get to in a bit.

Really, I think a man named Edmund Burke was very much on the right track, at least in one particular.

A disposition to preserve, and an ability to improve, taken together, would be my standard of a statesman.

People will not look forward to posterity, who never look backward to their ancestors.

Custom reconciles us to everything.

Edmund Burke, from BrainyQuote.

While not at all on topic, I am also rather fond of this from Burke. I thought I’d throw it in.

He that struggles with us strengthens our nerves, and sharpens our skill. Our antagonist is our helper.

Edmund Burke, from BrainyQuote.

The gist of Burke’s good idea is…

The conservative aspect of Burke’s thought is the dignity it gives to history and to existing institutions, yet it is also essentially about change, since history cannot prove anything unless it actually does encompass change, as the hallowed rights of the English were slowly evolved over the centuries, from the Magna Carta to the Glorious Revolution of 1688. Burke himself said, “A state without the means of change is without the means of its conservation.”

Conservatism, History, and Progress

Human cultures, human civilizations, are built on the backs of thousands of years of experience. This experience isn’t necessarily recorded in the world’s documents. It isn’t necessarily even consciously recognized by civilization. Still, for thousands of years we’ve been experimenting with the construction of society and we live inside the result of those countless experiments. We’ve created– organically, painfully, with fits and starts– a tolerably functional system. It would be foolish to throw away that foundation. We are not bright enough to construct a society from scratch, from nothing. We are not bright enough to make radical alterations to society and know with reasonable confidence that the results will be pleasant. As evidence, take a look at France immediately following the overthrow of the king. Take a look at states created in Germany and Austria following World War I. Take Iraq. Our best efforts at radical nation building have led to very big messes. It would be wise to bear that in mind.

This is not an argument for a return to some idealized past, nor is it an argument for stagnation. It is an argument for caution. In effect, it is an argument for a kind of conservatism as an anchor to prevent ourselves from rashly destabilizing society. It isn’t an argument for no change. It is an argument for slow change and for paying attention to consequences.

Of course, Burke realized– and he was right, that if no one is pushing for change, pushing for improvement, we are equally damned. A stagnant society rots and dies. This is true in part because– perhaps largely because– ‘now’ is always different from ‘then’. Whatever we may have done in the past, whatever we have learned, current circumstances require adaptation.

But a society changing too quickly runs itself off any number of cliffs. I think there is a rough analogy to inflation here. Inflation itself– allowing the money supply to grow– is not a bad thing. It is arguably a good thing, even. But allowing it to grow too fast or allowing circumstances where it grows too fast leads to catastrophe.

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  1. 1 On July 5th, 2007, JR said:

    “Why is it that so many right wing blogs go for names that ring of ‘bossy’, ‘dogmatic’, ‘go tell it on the mountain’, and just plain ‘arrogant’?”
    -I tend to try to answer this question with the latest psychological version of over-compensating for a feeling of insecurity, but I forget to remember that psychology is not the product of my generation and that one of history’s greatest psychologist was Shakespeare: me thinks [tacky name of rightwing blog] doth protest too much. Facts which are apparently obvious shouldn’t require such psychological safety nets for the blogger to convey them.

    “In effect, it is an argument for a kind of conservatism as an anchor to prevent ourselves from rashly destabilizing society. It isn’t an argument for no change. It is an argument for slow change and for paying attention to consequences. ”
    -Another aspect of Altemeyer’s work (and I’m going on memory only here) was the Alpha authoritarian that would conform his or her prinicples to whatever was necessary for society to give him power, and that power is not the means but the end, save but to obtain more power. The real bitch about real change is what will benefit one person will cost another; same for groups of people as well.

    I don’t consider conservatism a disorder either, it’s just another aspect of humanity, reoccuring themes producing predictable results, one of which is a dislike of change and of those who seek to enact it. This leads to Tribalism, which itself is reactionary. At this point I should say that I have no idea where my post is going either, as this stuff fascinates me but not necessarily in any coherent way. It reminds me of a metaphorical sea of change, ripples across the country, ours for example… who wants change, who doesn’t, who’s in power and who isn’t, what’s the ratio of those who want change to those who refuse it, what do the studies show about how the pace of change a society will accept (caveat: a democratic society?) via peaceful means or current avenues available to those seeking change…

    Intellectual roadblock. Time for ice cream.

  2. 2 On May 10th, 2008, Roger said:

    I can’t see why people can’t face the truth. you can’t just pick one person out of history and apply that one person toward the whole party or movement.
    Conservatism is the ideology that people should stand up and do for themselves to be strong and independant. It doesn’t cater to the lazy, or unmotivated, or devious. It doesn’t allow for whiners, complainers and those given to victimhood. It expects you to do the right thing, it expects you to stand up, be counted and do what is right for your contry and your neighbor. Any one that can find fault with that is a socialist and belongs in the old USSR. The reason conservatism is usually at odds with liberalism is that so many times. this “liberalism” despite the niceities of saying it cares about people and tries to prevent suffering, it has been proven in history to many times cause suffering through the “good intentions”. Maybe its a flaw in the game planning, maybe there’s a weak link in the chain, I can’t say, but liberalism has done a greater share of damage to America than most other ideology. It has sucked people in under the ideo of doing good, but at the end of the day, the domino effect they caused usually does something bad. Now this might have been unintended consequences, true, so i’m left with the question. Are they too dumb to understand the bad that happened due to their efforts ? or do they just not care ? you can’t have your cake and eat it too.
    Conservatism has their people too that have tried to live up to the standard and failed in the end too. That doesn’t discredit the movement, it discredits the person. And I haven’t seen conservatise literally destroy the things that made this nation great as much as liberalism. I’ve yet to see liberals even appoligize for the destruction they’ve created. Have they appoligized for the people now starving to death and rioting due to their bio fuels ? Have they changed their mind and given up on preventing the USA from drilling for their own oil ? Building refineries to refine their own gas ? Have they given up on the Global warming hoax that is costing people more money and livlihoods ? That’s just a few of the things they’ve caused and i’ve yet to see a correction or an appoligy.

  3. 3 On May 10th, 2008, themaiden said:

    Roger,

    Welcome, but I’m not going to respond to you until you re-read this post and, well, pay attention.

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