Comments on: Revelations of Heaven and Hell… Hallelujah! http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2007/08/20/revelations-of-heaven-and-hell-hallelujah/ Politics, Philosophy, Religion... and their collisions with the real world. Wed, 20 Aug 2008 21:46:24 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Follower of Christ http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2007/08/20/revelations-of-heaven-and-hell-hallelujah/#comment-244021 Follower of Christ Wed, 20 Aug 2008 00:40:36 +0000 http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2007/08/20/revelations-of-heaven-and-hell-hallelujah/#comment-244021 Yes! Today is the day of salvation,and where there is life there is hope.Lets' pray for the audience that may be seeking Him on this website. God Bless. Yes! Today is the day of salvation,and where there is life there is hope.Lets’ pray for the audience that may be seeking Him on this website. God Bless.

]]> By: George Varghese http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2007/08/20/revelations-of-heaven-and-hell-hallelujah/#comment-243370 George Varghese Mon, 18 Aug 2008 20:49:42 +0000 http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2007/08/20/revelations-of-heaven-and-hell-hallelujah/#comment-243370 The Almighty God loves all his creation.He wants everyone to be saved. That is why he sent his beloved son Jesus Christ to this world. He died on the cross for all and resurrected on the third day. Whoever believes this and accept him as personal lord and savior will be saved. Jesus will forgive the sins and will be a new creation, the old is gone. Eternal life is his promise. Any one really wants to experience the presence of Jesus Christ,simply kneel down and pray to him with full heart.With his presence he would clear all the doubts.It is an experience and nobody can deny their own experience. Do not hesitate or wait for some other time to accept Jesus as savior and lord because the next moment is not in our hand. Have this experience and May God bless all. The Almighty God loves all his creation.He wants everyone to be saved. That is why he sent his beloved son Jesus Christ to this world. He died on the cross for all and resurrected on the third day. Whoever believes this and accept him as personal lord and savior will be saved. Jesus will forgive the sins and will be a new creation, the old is gone. Eternal life is his promise. Any one really wants to experience the presence of Jesus Christ,simply kneel down and pray to him with full heart.With his presence he would clear all the doubts.It is an experience and nobody can deny their own experience. Do not hesitate or wait for some other time to accept Jesus as savior and lord because the next moment is not in our hand. Have this experience and May God bless all.

]]> By: Dennis L. Esparar http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2007/08/20/revelations-of-heaven-and-hell-hallelujah/#comment-229121 Dennis L. Esparar Tue, 29 Jul 2008 02:50:55 +0000 http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2007/08/20/revelations-of-heaven-and-hell-hallelujah/#comment-229121 That little passage irritates me. It strikes me as a gentle reminder that “killing in the name of God’s love isn’t really killing”. The Testimony only talking on flowers, and I think this is not really killing though... That little passage irritates me. It strikes me as a gentle reminder that “killing in the name of God’s love isn’t really killing”.

The Testimony only talking on flowers, and I think this is not really killing though…

]]> By: elizabeth wachera mwangi http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2007/08/20/revelations-of-heaven-and-hell-hallelujah/#comment-223160 elizabeth wachera mwangi Mon, 21 Jul 2008 06:44:14 +0000 http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2007/08/20/revelations-of-heaven-and-hell-hallelujah/#comment-223160 am so inspired by the testmony.they have left me more sirious in salvation.i trust and believe in you am so inspired by the testmony.they have left me more sirious in salvation.i trust and believe in you

]]> By: themaiden http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2007/08/20/revelations-of-heaven-and-hell-hallelujah/#comment-186596 themaiden Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:56:19 +0000 http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2007/08/20/revelations-of-heaven-and-hell-hallelujah/#comment-186596 Walmor, Imagine that! People thinking about things. How bloody bizarre! It is almost like we refuse to buy every little bit of nonsense that gets thrown our way. You are right though, with magic all things are possible. Sadly, magic sortof doesn't seem to actually exist. Walmor,

Imagine that! People thinking about things. How bloody bizarre! It is almost like we refuse to buy every little bit of nonsense that gets thrown our way.

You are right though, with magic all things are possible. Sadly, magic sortof doesn’t seem to actually exist.

]]> By: Walmor http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2007/08/20/revelations-of-heaven-and-hell-hallelujah/#comment-186341 Walmor Fri, 22 Feb 2008 13:42:11 +0000 http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2007/08/20/revelations-of-heaven-and-hell-hallelujah/#comment-186341 The way some of you people feel you have to dissect the validity of whether or not an individual experienced an after death revelation in Heaven or Hell. What does it matter? Anything is possible with God. God is all Knowing, all powerful, he has the ability to show whoever he wants Heaven as illustrated in the book of John. The one thing I try to keep in mind is what Jesus warned us about; "Many false prophets will come in my name." The only way we will know the true Jesus will appear before is when he returns an we as believes are called up into the clouds, when we are changed in the twinkling of the eye. "The death shall rise first, then the living believers." You see, it really does not matter what you think, whether you believe in the Bible or God or whatever your unfortunate reason for why you feel the way you do, the bottom line is you are with out a doubt going to Heaven or Hell whether you like or not. They exist~! In choosing, why on earth would you choose separation and misery, and the constant hostile assaults against you by Demons when you can choose eternal life in paradise praising and glorifying our Heavenly Father, the one whom gave you life to begin with. I promise, if you will try just once to open your heart some place in private, drop to your knees and ask Jesus to come in to your life to help guide in your quest for the truth, tears will come to your eyes as you experience the Holy Spirit speaking to you. Change your heart, read God's inspired words, The Bible! God loves you, whether you think you deserve it or not. Don't judge Christians or think about how two faced they seem, simply follow Jesus. That's what a Christian is, "A follower of Christ Jesus." We can't be just like Jesus because we are not perfect, only God is perfect. All we can do is educate ourselves in the word of God, ask for forgiveness, and strive to repent or not keep making the same mistakes. Sin is fun, know-one can dispute that, but that does not make it alright. All people do is make excuses to cover up their poor chooses. Example: Homosexual behavior, try glancing at 1 Corinthians 6:9. But of course, it won't matter a bit if a person doesn't believe the Bible in the first place. Look, I just want to save your spirit from going to a place that can be totally avoidable. Maybe you have experienced bad churches or bad sermons, I personally dislike small older churches where you have just organ player and a bunch of elderly women in choir robes singing what is not joyful music but, you what? My wife and I found a very large church with an incredible praise team that play unbelievable music and the sermons, the missions our church puts out is fantastic, so keep looking for that place that you are comfortable in, where you can grow and mature in your spiritual journey. Help others, and go see the "Passion of Christ," to remind yourself of what Jesus endured so that you may have a righteous path to salvation. I think we all need to be reminded of his tortured death and not just at Easter. Don't turn your back on God! He has never turned his back on you... And, stop blaming God for ever bad thing that happens in your life. Maybe God is waiting for you to grow up and seek him..... Death is certain for every one of us. The lights don'e simply go out. You walk through a doorway so to speak into the next relam of your existance whether you believe it or, it will happen.... Choose the correct path.. Your eternal spirit is at stake here, don't mess around! The way some of you people feel you have to dissect the validity of whether or not an individual experienced an after death revelation in Heaven or Hell. What does it matter? Anything is possible with God. God is all Knowing, all powerful, he has the ability to show whoever he wants Heaven as illustrated in the book of John. The one thing I try to keep in mind is what Jesus warned us about; “Many false prophets will come in my name.” The only way we will know the true Jesus will appear before is when he returns an we as believes are called up into the clouds, when we are changed in the twinkling of the eye. “The death shall rise first, then the living believers.”
You see, it really does not matter what you think, whether you believe in the Bible or God or whatever your unfortunate reason for why you feel the way you do, the bottom line is you are with out a doubt going to Heaven or Hell whether you like or not. They exist~! In choosing, why on earth would you choose separation and misery, and the constant hostile assaults against you by Demons when you can choose eternal life in paradise praising and glorifying our Heavenly Father, the one whom gave you life to begin with. I promise, if you will try just once to open your heart some place in private, drop to your knees and ask Jesus to come in to your life to help guide in your quest for the truth, tears will come to your eyes as you experience the Holy Spirit speaking to you. Change your heart, read God’s inspired words, The Bible! God loves you, whether you think you deserve it or not. Don’t judge Christians or think about how two faced they seem, simply follow Jesus. That’s what a Christian is, “A follower of Christ Jesus.” We can’t be just like Jesus because we are not perfect, only God is perfect. All we can do is educate ourselves in the word of God, ask for forgiveness, and strive to repent or not keep making the same mistakes. Sin is fun, know-one can dispute that, but that does not make it alright. All people do is make excuses to cover up their poor chooses. Example: Homosexual behavior, try glancing at 1 Corinthians 6:9. But of course, it won’t matter a bit if a person doesn’t believe the Bible in the first place. Look, I just want to save your spirit from going to a place that can be totally avoidable. Maybe you have experienced bad churches or bad sermons, I personally dislike small older churches where you have just organ player and a bunch of elderly women in choir robes singing what is not joyful music but, you what? My wife and I found a very large church with an incredible praise team that play unbelievable music and the sermons, the missions our church puts out is fantastic, so keep looking for that place that you are comfortable in, where you can grow and mature in your spiritual journey. Help others, and go see the “Passion of Christ,” to remind yourself of what Jesus endured so that you may have a righteous path to salvation. I think we all need to be reminded of his tortured death and not just at Easter. Don’t turn your back on God! He has never turned his back on you… And, stop blaming God for ever bad thing that happens in your life. Maybe God is waiting for you to grow up and seek him….. Death is certain for every one of us. The lights don’e simply go out. You walk through a doorway so to speak into the next relam of your existance whether you believe it or, it will happen…. Choose the correct path.. Your eternal spirit is at stake here, don’t mess around!

]]> By: Walmor http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2007/08/20/revelations-of-heaven-and-hell-hallelujah/#comment-186137 Walmor Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:02:57 +0000 http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2007/08/20/revelations-of-heaven-and-hell-hallelujah/#comment-186137 Lakejen, As much as i appreciate your spouting off about your non christian beliefs and why God would send good people to Hell, I would as you put it about religious people having to pull things out of the bibles, I would really have to respectfully say you are extremely ignorant when comes to the word of God and what Jesus had to endure for the remission or forgiveness of our sins because we are all born into sin and we will all continue to sin in one fashion or another until the day we die. I wish you could sit down one day and begin reading the book of Matthew (Levi)or even Romans 1:18 or 1 Corinthians and really open your heart and mind. This is not some mystical book reinterpreted over and over by mankind. These books are the God inspired words. Jesus said, "Knowone comes to the father except through me." You very simply have to over your heart and ask Jesus to come into your life. Ask for forgiveness and know that God loves each one us good or bad. There is a hell set aside for those who challenge God and live life irresponsibility without any though of their actions or the consequence that follow. Satan (The beautiful Angel named Lucifer) had free will as do we, and Lucifer decided he wanted God's position, which wasn't going to happen, so he was banished from heaven. Yes, there has always been and always will be accountability. Be-careful about how you address God and his people, He is much more powerful than you. You can either receive him or Deni him and only you will have to endure the consequences. Educate yourself before spouting off on a subject matter in which you are severely handicapped in. I am sorry for you and yes, I pray for you. Receive him! Lakejen,

As much as i appreciate your spouting off about your non christian beliefs and why God would send good people to Hell, I would as you put it about religious people having to pull things out of the bibles, I would really have to respectfully say you are extremely ignorant when comes to the word of God and what Jesus had to endure for the remission or forgiveness of our sins because we are all born into sin and we will all continue to sin in one fashion or another until the day we die. I wish you could sit down one day and begin reading the book of Matthew (Levi)or even Romans 1:18 or 1 Corinthians and really open your heart and mind. This is not some mystical book reinterpreted over and over by mankind. These books are the God inspired words. Jesus said, “Knowone comes to the father except through me.” You very simply have to over your heart and ask Jesus to come into your life. Ask for forgiveness and know that God loves each one us good or bad. There is a hell set aside for those who challenge God and live life irresponsibility without any though of their actions or the consequence that follow. Satan (The beautiful Angel named Lucifer) had free will as do we, and Lucifer decided he wanted God’s position, which wasn’t going to happen, so he was banished from heaven. Yes, there has always been and always will be accountability. Be-careful about how you address God and his people, He is much more powerful than you. You can either receive him or Deni him and only you will have to endure the consequences. Educate yourself before spouting off on a subject matter in which you are severely handicapped in. I am sorry for you and yes, I pray for you. Receive him!

]]> By: themaiden http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2007/08/20/revelations-of-heaven-and-hell-hallelujah/#comment-181823 themaiden Fri, 15 Feb 2008 12:48:09 +0000 http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2007/08/20/revelations-of-heaven-and-hell-hallelujah/#comment-181823 Anil, You don' know Jesus personally any more than I know 'Doctor Who' or Cap'n Ahab. Anil,

You don’ know Jesus personally any more than I know ‘Doctor Who’ or Cap’n Ahab.

]]> By: Anil http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2007/08/20/revelations-of-heaven-and-hell-hallelujah/#comment-181766 Anil Fri, 15 Feb 2008 11:27:55 +0000 http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2007/08/20/revelations-of-heaven-and-hell-hallelujah/#comment-181766 Please accept Jesus. I know him personally... He's the only one who can save. Dont wait till later.. It might be too late. Jesus really loves you. Turn to him. And may God bless you! Please accept Jesus. I know him personally… He’s the only one who can save. Dont wait till later.. It might be too late. Jesus really loves you. Turn to him. And may God bless you!

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2007/08/20/revelations-of-heaven-and-hell-hallelujah/#comment-158268 Anonymous Mon, 31 Dec 2007 03:04:41 +0000 http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2007/08/20/revelations-of-heaven-and-hell-hallelujah/#comment-158268 I really pray with all my heart that you who have so much to say against the bible and God and Jesus Christ find it in your hearts to believe. One day, you will feel His presence and see the truth for yourselves. Till then, no one can possibly make or FORCE you to see or understand. Jesus has never been more real than what you beleive in now. He truly is the comforter and the one that can give you serenity and peace. Please, im not asking you to take a long time to think it over but just a mere minute to close your eyes and say, 'Jesus, touch me and let me see to understand'. and if that does not do any good to you then it is entirely up to you to choose or go ahead condemning. God is not just there for the easy taking. That is what Satan is here for. Easy, easy, and more EASY! God does not need you and your justifications. All He asks of you is faith and trust. And if you choose to not belive then let that be your choice, but don't call out to Him for mercy when you are burning and in undying pain. Simply because YOU have made YOUR choice. I really pray with all my heart that you who have so much to say against the bible and God and Jesus Christ find it in your hearts to believe. One day, you will feel His presence and see the truth for yourselves. Till then, no one can possibly make or FORCE you to see or understand. Jesus has never been more real than what you beleive in now. He truly is the comforter and the one that can give you serenity and peace. Please, im not asking you to take a long time to think it over but just a mere minute to close your eyes and say, ‘Jesus, touch me and let me see to understand’. and if that does not do any good to you then it is entirely up to you to choose or go ahead condemning.

God is not just there for the easy taking. That is what Satan is here for. Easy, easy, and more EASY! God does not need you and your justifications. All He asks of you is faith and trust. And if you choose to not belive then let that be your choice, but don’t call out to Him for mercy when you are burning and in undying pain. Simply because YOU have made YOUR choice.

]]> By: themaiden http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2007/08/20/revelations-of-heaven-and-hell-hallelujah/#comment-158243 themaiden Mon, 31 Dec 2007 01:56:06 +0000 http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2007/08/20/revelations-of-heaven-and-hell-hallelujah/#comment-158243 Jonathan, 1) The Mafia is found of offering the same kind of 'choice'. It isn't really a choice. "Pay up or I'll break your hands" is a threat. So is "worship me or you'll go to hell." Now, if people would just pay up nobody would get hurt. That means that the Mafia Guy isn't responsible for people's injuries, right? I mean, they had a choice. And you know what? I'm sure that mafia guy really does wish people would just pay up. That doesn't make him warm and fuzzy. 2) Quoting the Bible in no influences those who do not already believe the Bible. That is like me quoting the Enuma Elish and expecting you to be swayed by it. You wouldn't be, because the Enuma Elish is myth. So is the Bible. 3) I really love this one-- "Eternity is too long to be wrong so you had better be right." You are in the same boat and don't realize it. You'd better be right too. See, if you chose the wrong God you are just as screwed as you think I am. Jonathan,

1) The Mafia is found of offering the same kind of ‘choice’. It isn’t really a choice. “Pay up or I’ll break your hands” is a threat. So is “worship me or you’ll go to hell.” Now, if people would just pay up nobody would get hurt. That means that the Mafia Guy isn’t responsible for people’s injuries, right? I mean, they had a choice. And you know what? I’m sure that mafia guy really does wish people would just pay up. That doesn’t make him warm and fuzzy.

2) Quoting the Bible in no influences those who do not already believe the Bible. That is like me quoting the Enuma Elish and expecting you to be swayed by it. You wouldn’t be, because the Enuma Elish is myth. So is the Bible.

3) I really love this one– “Eternity is too long to be wrong so you had better be right.” You are in the same boat and don’t realize it. You’d better be right too. See, if you chose the wrong God you are just as screwed as you think I am.

]]> By: Jonathan http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2007/08/20/revelations-of-heaven-and-hell-hallelujah/#comment-153807 Jonathan Thu, 20 Dec 2007 01:11:21 +0000 http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2007/08/20/revelations-of-heaven-and-hell-hallelujah/#comment-153807 God does not send people to Hell. God is truth. He can not lie. If God gives an "IF" statement like you see in Psalm 91 then if you don't SAY of the Lord "He is my Refuge and my Fortress, my God; on Him I lean and rely, and in Him I [confidently] trust!" and or you speak the fear that comes from what you see and hear then you're not dwelling in the secret place, thats the word not me.When does he deliver you? After you say and believe,confidently he is your Refuge and my Fortress. Psalm 91 (Amplified Bible) 1HE WHO dwells in the secret place of the Most High shall remain stable and fixed under the shadow of the Almighty [Whose power no foe can withstand]. 2I will say of the Lord, He is my Refuge and my Fortress, my God; on Him I lean and rely, and in Him I [confidently] trust! 3For [then] He will deliver you from the snare of the fowler and from the deadly pestilence. 4[Then] He will cover you with His pinions, and under His wings shall you trust and find refuge; His truth and His faithfulness are a shield and a buckler. 5You shall not be afraid of the terror of the night, nor of the arrow (the evil plots and slanders of the wicked) that flies by day, 6Nor of the pestilence that stalks in darkness, nor of the destruction and sudden death that surprise and lay waste at noonday. This is part of the reason why bad things happen to good people. God will not lie. The wages of sin is death. He said he wish that NONE SHOULD PARISH BUT THAT ALL WOULD HAVE ETERNAL LIFE. You've heard people say " I cant believe that"...well that is a lie because believing IS a choice. Eternity is too long to be wrong so you had better be right. God does not send people to Hell. God is truth. He can not lie. If God gives an “IF” statement like you see in Psalm 91 then if you don’t SAY of the Lord “He is my Refuge and my Fortress, my God; on Him I lean and rely, and in Him I [confidently] trust!” and or you speak the fear that comes from what you see and hear then you’re not dwelling in the secret place, thats the word not me.When does he deliver you? After you say and believe,confidently he is your Refuge and my Fortress.

Psalm 91 (Amplified Bible)
1HE WHO dwells in the secret place of the Most High shall remain stable and fixed under the shadow of the Almighty [Whose power no foe can withstand].

2I will say of the Lord, He is my Refuge and my Fortress, my God; on Him I lean and rely, and in Him I [confidently] trust!

3For [then] He will deliver you from the snare of the fowler and from the deadly pestilence.

4[Then] He will cover you with His pinions, and under His wings shall you trust and find refuge; His truth and His faithfulness are a shield and a buckler.

5You shall not be afraid of the terror of the night, nor of the arrow (the evil plots and slanders of the wicked) that flies by day,

6Nor of the pestilence that stalks in darkness, nor of the destruction and sudden death that surprise and lay waste at noonday.

This is part of the reason why bad things happen to good people. God will not lie. The wages of sin is death. He said he wish that NONE SHOULD PARISH BUT THAT ALL WOULD HAVE ETERNAL LIFE. You’ve heard people say ” I cant believe that”…well that is a lie because believing IS a choice. Eternity is too long to be wrong so you had better be right.

]]> By: themaiden http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2007/08/20/revelations-of-heaven-and-hell-hallelujah/#comment-140222 themaiden Thu, 15 Nov 2007 07:08:23 +0000 http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2007/08/20/revelations-of-heaven-and-hell-hallelujah/#comment-140222 Aaron, Yeah, that is one weird site. I browsed around a little and learned some interesting things. Then I had to leave as my brain started bleeding. Aaron,

Yeah, that is one weird site. I browsed around a little and learned some interesting things. Then I had to leave as my brain started bleeding.

]]> By: Aaron http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2007/08/20/revelations-of-heaven-and-hell-hallelujah/#comment-140210 Aaron Thu, 15 Nov 2007 06:45:06 +0000 http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2007/08/20/revelations-of-heaven-and-hell-hallelujah/#comment-140210 If you click on the top right side of the 7 heaven testamonies there are 7 more exclusively for hell. I learned that John Lennon is burning in Hell and Jesus won't look at him, but he will torment him by showing up and refusing to let him out of Hell. I think they kind of make the argument that abortion is OK because all the babies get a one way ticket to heaven where they are raised by Jesus. What could be better than that. No chance to mess up and get stuck in Hell. Happy birthday to you. If you click on the top right side of the 7 heaven testamonies there are 7 more exclusively for hell. I learned that John Lennon is burning in Hell and Jesus won’t look at him, but he will torment him by showing up and refusing to let him out of Hell. I think they kind of make the argument that abortion is OK because all the babies get a one way ticket to heaven where they are raised by Jesus. What could be better than that. No chance to mess up and get stuck in Hell. Happy birthday to you.

]]> By: themaiden http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2007/08/20/revelations-of-heaven-and-hell-hallelujah/#comment-140047 themaiden Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:43:43 +0000 http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2007/08/20/revelations-of-heaven-and-hell-hallelujah/#comment-140047 Evan, That is a quote. Evan,

That is a quote.

]]> By: evan http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2007/08/20/revelations-of-heaven-and-hell-hallelujah/#comment-139908 evan Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:43:31 +0000 http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2007/08/20/revelations-of-heaven-and-hell-hallelujah/#comment-139908 It's "Colombian"... It’s “Colombian”…

]]> By: Carnival of the Godless 79 — Pie Now on Earth [Aardvarchaeology] · New York Articles http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2007/08/20/revelations-of-heaven-and-hell-hallelujah/#comment-138762 Carnival of the Godless 79 — Pie Now on Earth [Aardvarchaeology] · New York Articles Mon, 12 Nov 2007 00:03:00 +0000 http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2007/08/20/revelations-of-heaven-and-hell-hallelujah/#comment-138762 [...] Hell’s Handmaiden comments on seven Columbian youths’ alleged visit to Heaven . [...] [...] Hell’s Handmaiden comments on seven Columbian youths’ alleged visit to Heaven . [...]

]]> By: themaiden http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2007/08/20/revelations-of-heaven-and-hell-hallelujah/#comment-114832 themaiden Fri, 24 Aug 2007 13:26:17 +0000 http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2007/08/20/revelations-of-heaven-and-hell-hallelujah/#comment-114832 LakeJen, As you quote, "A couple points to make, first of all, I had left my body. I saw my body when I returned, lying on the floor. So I know for sure it was an out of body experience." Saw your body? Has to be true? Hmmm... One word answer: PCP. The drug produces something called psychotic disassociation. <blockquote>It would be rather refreshing if just one religious person would do some scientific investigation of their claims (and I am not talking about the Answers in Genesis kind of science). Hey, if they did it properly they might even convince me.</blockquote> Yes, but see you mustn't test God. Therefore, even though God could be proven, testing him is a sin, and so we can't do it and even if we did try God might no cooperate just to be a jerk about not liking to be tested and so the results wouldn't be accurate anyway... <blockquote>Just remember the guy in the bible who catches the Ark and stops it from falling on the floor (can’t remember exactly where but I’m sure someone can enlighten me on that).</blockquote> Uzzah, 2 Samuel 6:3-7,... merciful God at his best. LakeJen,

As you quote, “A couple points to make, first of all, I had left my body. I saw my body when I returned, lying on the floor. So I know for sure it was an out of body experience.”

Saw your body? Has to be true? Hmmm… One word answer: PCP. The drug produces something called psychotic disassociation.

It would be rather refreshing if just one religious person would do some scientific investigation of their claims (and I am not talking about the Answers in Genesis kind of science). Hey, if they did it properly they might even convince me.

Yes, but see you mustn’t test God. Therefore, even though God could be proven, testing him is a sin, and so we can’t do it and even if we did try God might no cooperate just to be a jerk about not liking to be tested and so the results wouldn’t be accurate anyway…

Just remember the guy in the bible who catches the Ark and stops it from falling on the floor (can’t remember exactly where but I’m sure someone can enlighten me on that).

Uzzah, 2 Samuel 6:3-7,… merciful God at his best.

]]> By: Lakejen http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2007/08/20/revelations-of-heaven-and-hell-hallelujah/#comment-114804 Lakejen Fri, 24 Aug 2007 08:37:11 +0000 http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2007/08/20/revelations-of-heaven-and-hell-hallelujah/#comment-114804 I read Bill Wieses account from his 23 minutes in dreamland, sorry…. Hell. Ignoring the vivid descriptions of hell, since you can’t really say much about them, here are a few interesting quotes: “The first question that would be in mine, if I was listening to me, would be, "How do you know it wasn't just a dream that you had? A Bad dream?" A couple points to make, first of all, I had left my body. I saw my body when I returned, lying on the floor. So I know for sure it was an out of body experience. Some Christians have said, "Oh a Christian can't leave his body." But that's not true, In 2 Corinthians 12:2, when Paul was caught up into the third heaven, He said, "whether in the body, or out of the body I do not know." So if he didn't know that must mean it's possible. And also he said in verse 1 that it was a vision, so I believe this comes under the classification of a vision.” Apart from the fact that he really only makes one point it’s pretty weak argumentation. He saw his own body lying on the floor!!! Of course none of us have ever had a dream where we were outside of our bodies. Out of body experience is a much more likely explanation than dreaming – especially at 3am in the morning…. You also have to admire religious people’s ability to always turn to their holy books whenever they have to prove something. Whether or not out of body experiences happen in the bible it really does nothing to either prove or disprove real life out of body experiences. It is very much akin to me quoting Lord of the Rings (probably the closest thing I have to a holy book) in order to prove that I really was invisible last night when I managed to sneak in without waking up my other half. At least I think I did, but then I had had a fair few drinks. It would be rather refreshing if just one religious person would do some scientific investigation of their claims (and I am not talking about the Answers in Genesis kind of science). Hey, if they did it properly they might even convince me. ” He let me touch a piece of His heart, of how much He loves mankind.” Now of course that beggars the question: If god loves Humanity soooo much why does he send people to such a horrible place? A question that ‘somegreybloke’ puts much more eloquently (well, at least much more entertaining): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2bpc7LSRZc What you should admit to be saved: “I am a sinner. I sinned in many points, willfully, and unconsciously. I've fallen short. I've missed the mark. I'm stained with sin.“ Stained with sin? Man, I’m glad I am not a Christian. AND you don’t even have to be conscious about it. Even if you try to act like nice human being you can’t avoid sinning. Just remember the guy in the bible who catches the Ark and stops it from falling on the floor (can’t remember exactly where but I’m sure someone can enlighten me on that). And the thanks for this seemingly rather sensible and good thing to do: Instant annihilation by the big G (and presumably an eternity in hell for the horrible sin of touching the Ark). God is love, Rofl. I read Bill Wieses account from his 23 minutes in dreamland, sorry…. Hell. Ignoring the vivid descriptions of hell, since you can’t really say much about them, here are a few interesting quotes:

“The first question that would be in mine, if I was listening to me, would be, “How do you know it wasn’t just a dream that you had? A Bad dream?” A couple points to make, first of all, I had left my body. I saw my body when I returned, lying on the floor. So I know for sure it was an out of body experience. Some Christians have said, “Oh a Christian can’t leave his body.” But that’s not true, In 2 Corinthians 12:2, when Paul was caught up into the third heaven, He said, “whether in the body, or out of the body I do not know.” So if he didn’t know that must mean it’s possible. And also he said in verse 1 that it was a vision, so I believe this comes under the classification of a vision.”

Apart from the fact that he really only makes one point it’s pretty weak argumentation. He saw his own body lying on the floor!!! Of course none of us have ever had a dream where we were outside of our bodies. Out of body experience is a much more likely explanation than dreaming – especially at 3am in the morning….

You also have to admire religious people’s ability to always turn to their holy books whenever they have to prove something. Whether or not out of body experiences happen in the bible it really does nothing to either prove or disprove real life out of body experiences. It is very much akin to me quoting Lord of the Rings (probably the closest thing I have to a holy book) in order to prove that I really was invisible last night when I managed to sneak in without waking up my other half. At least I think I did, but then I had had a fair few drinks.

It would be rather refreshing if just one religious person would do some scientific investigation of their claims (and I am not talking about the Answers in Genesis kind of science). Hey, if they did it properly they might even convince me.

” He let me touch a piece of His heart, of how much He loves mankind.”

Now of course that beggars the question: If god loves Humanity soooo much why does he send people to such a horrible place? A question that ‘somegreybloke’ puts much more eloquently (well, at least much more entertaining): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2bpc7LSRZc

What you should admit to be saved:
“I am a sinner. I sinned in many points, willfully, and unconsciously. I’ve fallen short. I’ve missed the mark. I’m stained with sin.“

Stained with sin? Man, I’m glad I am not a Christian. AND you don’t even have to be conscious about it. Even if you try to act like nice human being you can’t avoid sinning. Just remember the guy in the bible who catches the Ark and stops it from falling on the floor (can’t remember exactly where but I’m sure someone can enlighten me on that). And the thanks for this seemingly rather sensible and good thing to do: Instant annihilation by the big G (and presumably an eternity in hell for the horrible sin of touching the Ark). God is love, Rofl.

]]> By: themaiden http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2007/08/20/revelations-of-heaven-and-hell-hallelujah/#comment-114275 themaiden Tue, 21 Aug 2007 16:24:51 +0000 http://www.hells-handmaiden.com/2007/08/20/revelations-of-heaven-and-hell-hallelujah/#comment-114275 I'll eventually get around to an upgrade but 1) I always find something else to spend the money on and 2) I've been annoyed with Apple ever since they started selling the damned OS every time they change the damned decimal. I’ll eventually get around to an upgrade but 1) I always find something else to spend the money on and 2) I’ve been annoyed with Apple ever since they started selling the damned OS every time they change the damned decimal.

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