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An Objectivism … what, exactly?

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I haven’t read much of Ayn Rand, though I’ve been told on the rare occasion that I sometimes say things that sound like her. I’m not sure if that is true. I do know of elements of her philosophy that I can agree to, at least on a prima facia basis. And frankly, she looks like– literally, looks like– someone I would have liked. I know, silly. Sounds like I should read Rand. Why haven’t I? Well… Rand seems to have generated a following that is– How should I say this?– a wee bit dogmatic.

Objectivists means people who support Ayn Rand and do not deal with her detractors.

Kim’s Play Place: An Objectivism Carnival

Funny, I thought that Objectivist meant believing in the basic principles laid out by Rand and named Objectivism. To wit, something like the belief “that there is a mind-independent reality; that individuals are in contact with this reality through sensory perception; that humans gain objective knowledge from perception by measurement and form valid concepts by measurement omission; that the proper moral purpose of one’s life is the pursuit of one’s own happiness or “rational self-interest;” that the only social system consistent with this morality is full respect for individual human rights, embodied in pure, consensual laissez-faire capitalism; and that the role of art in human life is to transform abstract knowledge, by selective reproduction of reality, into a physical form - a work of art - that one can comprehend and respond to with the whole of one’s consciousness.

Or if you prefer:

Objectivism celebrates the power of man’s mind, defending reason and science against every form of irrationalism. It provides an intellectual foundation for objective standards of truth and value.

Upholding the use of reason to transform nature and create wealth, Objectivism honors the businessman and the banker, no less than the philosopher and artist, as creators and as benefactors of mankind.

Ayn Rand was a champion of individual rights, which protect the sovereignty of the individual as an end in himself; and of capitalism, which is the only social system that allows people to live together peaceably, by voluntary trade, as independent equals.

About Objectivism

Of course, maybe I’m wrong, and ‘not dealing with detractors’ is what ‘Objectivism’ really means.

But as important to Rand’s hold on the public imagination is the great gulf between her fictional heroes and the often tawdry, disheartening details of her own biography, especially the cult-like obedience she demanded of her inner circle. In the gap between Rand’s soaring ideals and her lived reality, we see in particularly strong relief both the creative power of individual desire and its vast capacity for intolerance and delusion. In a world in which more people have more control over their lives than ever before, that’s something to always be pondering.

Reason does Ayn Rand on her 100th birthday

From another source:

On that I was soon to be set straight. I won’t go into the details as Nathaniel Brandon has written extensively on that period of time, but it soon became apparent to me that Ayn Rand had a dictatorial streak a mile long. Apparently, one was not to sacrifice one’s own thoughts and integrity to anyone–except her. To be part of her inner circle meant unquestioning obedience or face expulsion.

Ayn Rand and Me

This post is not meant to be a critique of Objectivism. If it were, it would be a very unfair one. As stated by Dr. Sanity, the source just cited, “you must judge an idea separate from the person who conceives it or promotes it.” This post isn’t even a general criticism of Rand’s followers. That too would be unfair. I’m not even sure whether the ‘definition’ I cited at the beginning is actually intended as a definition of ‘Objectivism’ as it seems to read. It may just be an ill worded description of what is allowed on the ‘Objectivism Carnival’, though categorically refusing to admit ‘detractors’ is sad in itself and a philosophy, or a person, who takes that line is de facto of questionable worth. Still, it may, barely, be defensible as a carnival criteria.

The post isn’t intended as a criticism of anyone in any real sense. It is just something I’ve noted with some sadness about some of Rand’s legacy and the result is that her works have been pushed down my reading list for years.

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There are currently 21 responses to “An Objectivism … what, exactly?”

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  1. 1 On August 23rd, 2007, somebody said:

    I came to be a libertarian through Rand’s works and Objectivism. I always thought she was pretty smart. However, that intelligence was definitely coupled with a huge ego. Of course, the most successful people in history (the ones that make a difference) always do have this ego that gives them unlimited self-esteem. I recently read Doherty’s “Radicals for Capitalism” and was upset to discover Rand’s true personality. I’m sure I probably would have hated her. But there is no doubt that her philosophy provides an important philosophical base for individualism. She was important in turning the tide away from collective altruism towards guiltless selfishness, as in providing a moral argument for capitalism and individual liberty. An important point though is that she was very defensive about her philosophy. The reason she demanded complete obedience was so that people would not go off preaching their own versions of Objectivism and, thus, tainting her brainchild.

  2. 2 On August 23rd, 2007, somebody said:

    Hate to doublepost, but here’s an interview with Brian Doherty about his book. He gives a short summary of Rand’s role in the history of libertarianism. It occurs near the end of the interview.

    http://www.booktv.org/program.aspx?ProgramId=7933&SectionName=After%20Words&PlayMedia=Yes

  3. 3 On August 23rd, 2007, themaiden said:

    somebody,

    There is probably something to what you say about successful people and egos, at least in a very broad survey sort of way. And I understand the wish to defend your brainchild, but a brainchild worth its salt ought to able to stand on its own… and it ought to be able to grow.

  4. 4 On August 23rd, 2007, themaiden said:

    somebody,

    Double posting is OK if you’ve got new content. See? I just double posted too. :)

  5. 5 On August 23rd, 2007, Jacob Wintersmith said:

    Yes, even among people who are generally sympathetic to Rand’s ideas it is not very fashionable to call oneself an Objectivist. And with good reason.

  6. 6 On August 23rd, 2007, themaiden said:

    Jacob,

    Like I said, it is sad. Rand was probably smarter than the average bear.

  7. 7 On August 24th, 2007, Zorgon30 said:

    Writing as an intellectual exercise obviously can never delve into all the aspects of an individual.It is limited by its form or format.
    It seems to me that Ayn Rand’s whole corpus of work was a reaction to collectivism( the system of communism or socialism) especially Russian. She probably is correct to state that individual liberty is best served in a capitalistic environment but capitalism also produces a military industrial complex that makes individuals pay the price of living in fear because ultimately power & control become the only ends to peoples selfishness. Ayn rand was obviously an atheist.It is large political systems that try to control ones life that are wrong and it is my belief that this occurs more effectively under the system of captialism rahter then socialism.
    All political systems end up being unions for in the war for power and control over other systems and are destructive to individual freedoom.
    I do not get the sense that Rand defined individual freedoom in a comprehensive way and omitted ideas she didn’t like. In this same sense she seems somewhat demogogic but i cannot be sure unless i read her philosophical works carefully. Besides no one system of thought is good for everyone and it doesn’t matter what we call whether that be objectivist or whatever!Like most intellectuals Rand gave Rationality /Reasoning occult meaning because she
    gave it ultimate power over anything else.
    This particular personality trait of hers might be explored more in depth as regards her obsession with power.

  8. 8 On August 24th, 2007, John said:

    Maiden,

    You cite Dr. Sanity approvingly that “you must judge an idea separate from the person who conceives it or promotes it.” On the face, this doesn’t sound like a good policy. If someone you know sudden conceives of and starts promoting the idea that rape is okay, I would be totally appalled and would immediately judge that person to be evil. There is no way I could divorce the idea from the person promoting it. I am not sure what you gain by separating the judgment of an idea from those promoting it.

  9. 9 On August 24th, 2007, themaiden said:

    John,

    You have to make the separation. Consider: A man imprisoned for multiple violent rape and murder, having nothing better to do, spends his sentence studying mathematics and ultimately provides the equations that connect relativity and quantum mechanics. Dismiss those equations because the man is flawed? No. That makes no sense.

  10. 10 On August 24th, 2007, Diana Hsieh said:

    You quoted Kim as saying, “Objectivists means people who support Ayn Rand and do not deal with her detractors.”

    Indeed, that is wrong. An Objectivist is simply someone who agrees with and lives by Ayn Rand’s philosophy of Objectivism.

  11. 11 On August 24th, 2007, themaiden said:

    Diana,

    Sure. Of course. What puzzles me is why someone would choose a definition that reflects so badly upon the person who chose it.

  12. 12 On August 24th, 2007, Diana Hsieh said:

    Goodness, that’s a bit harsh. I’m sure Kim didn’t mean to give a faulty definition, particularly not one that reflected badly on her!

    I suspect that she was just confused, particularly since the statement seems like a mangled condensation of my criteria for a mailing list for Objectivist bloggers. (I didn’t want people friendly with the lying critics of Ayn Rand, such as Nathaniel and Barbara Branden, to join the list. I’m friendly with some of those people, including bloggers, so I wanted to be clear from the get-go when I posted my invitation to join the list.)

    FYI, Nathaniel and Barbara Branden are the major source of the claims about Ayn Rand’s cultism, neurosis, etc. Their accounts of Ayn Rand have been very thoroughly demolished by Jim Valliant’s recent book _The Passion of Ayn Rand’s Critics_. Their biographies should have been looked at with a bit more skepticism from the outset, however. Seriously, how would you like your life story to be written after your death by your former lover and his wife, with whom you broke after discovering their years of deception? (It wasn’t adultery, btw, as all parties consented.) Also, reports from people I know who around at the time suggest that Nathaniel Branden was the power-hungry cultist — acting without Ayn Rand’s knowledge or permission — as a little dictator.

    However, you can also see for yourself what Ayn Rand was like. The Ayn Rand Institute (aynrand.org) has a huge audio library of her Ford Hall Forum (and other) talks. So you can hear how she answered questions, interacted with interviewers, and the like. You’ll find that she was consistently patient and polite, i.e. nothing like what her critics claim.

  13. 13 On August 24th, 2007, themaiden said:

    Diana,

    What Kim meant, I don’t know. I do know that positions that include ‘no critics allowed’ reflect badly upon the persons holding those position. Maybe that’s just me?

    I’ll look up Nathaniel and Barbara when I get the chance.

  14. 14 On August 27th, 2007, Friendly Neighborhood DJ said:

    Hmmm, interesting stuff. I’ve never done any hardcore, in-depth reading of Rand. The smatterings I got here and there were quite enough for me–her writing is very masturbatory (even for a philosophy writer), and it often seemed me that she started with this sociopolitical idea, then tried to create a philosophical underpinning to it, which doesn’t resonate with me very well.

    That said, I don’t much disagree with the beginning part of the definition of Objectivism:

    “that there is a mind-independent reality; that individuals are in contact with this reality through sensory perception; that humans gain objective knowledge from perception by measurement and form valid concepts by measurement omission”

    Sure, I’m with all of that. And I tend to be somewhere between Sartrean existentialism and Camusian absurdism in my own views. Hell, even Sartre, the high priest of subjectivism, acknowledged “mind-independent reality,” which he dubbed “being in-itself.” But beyond that, Rand’s ideas don’t much appeal to me.

  15. 15 On August 27th, 2007, themaiden said:

    Friendly,

    As the definition wanders along, it starts to lose me too. “…laissez-faire capitalism and blah blah art blah abstract blah blah blah blah…”

  16. 16 On August 29th, 2007, Justin said:

    I completely agree with the idea that a man’s work and man’s ideas ought to be thought of separate from the man’s personal life- it is in the interest of the betterment of all things that we do this… as was cited with the example of the rapist uniting those two very particular theories.

    But I think I can understand where John is coming from, but that maybe what he was trying to say (and maybe I’m wrong) was a bit misconstrued:

    When judging an idea, we must judge it separately from the man who proposes and promotes it, conversely, when judging a man, we must judge him in light of all the ideas he proposes and promotes.

  17. 17 On August 29th, 2007, themaiden said:

    Justin,

    I do agree that a person’s ideas can be used to evaluate that person. What else, after all, can we use to evaluate a person but behavior and speech– verbalized ideas? Even that, though is dangerous, the infamous Machiavelli was few of the things he is famous for promoting.

  18. 18 On August 30th, 2007, Jim said:

    And to think, all this time I thought that “objectivism” boiled down to, “being a greedy selfish bastard and defending it with big words”.

  19. 19 On August 30th, 2007, Justin said:

    themaiden,

    I apologize if this post is a bit short, but: very good point…

  20. 20 On August 30th, 2007, themaiden said:

    Yes, Jim. I believe that is the condensed and popular version.

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